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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Iron Grinder Liu
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nThe nun Iron Grinder Liu came to visit Guishan.\nGuishan said\, “Oh\, you old buffalo! So you have come!”\nIron Grinder said\, “Tomorrow there will be a great charity meeting at Mount Tai. Will you be going?”\nGuishan sprawled on the ground.\nIron Grinder went away. \n—Book of Equanimity\, Case 60 \nA couple of things came up immediately as I began spending time with this koan and vice versa. First was a koan involving Yunmen in which someone asks\, “What is the essence of all of the teachings?” And Yunmen replies\, “Speaking in tune with any occasion.” Other translations have Yunmen saying\, “Say something in response.” I like the “in tune” version. \nSometimes it feels to me like I have an internal pitch pipe that lets me know if I’m in tune or out of tune with the situation or another person. Iron Grinder and Guishan are completely in tune with each other. It’s not the kind of being in tune like a barbershop quartet\, it’s more like two jazz musicians riffing. They’re not reading from sheet music; it is completely speaking without moving their lips or tongue. \nThe other thing that came up was Qingtan (Ch’ing T’an)\, or Pure Conversation. It was something popular in China between the 3rd–6th centuries CE. It featured discussions on merging Daoist dark learning with Confucianism. It emphasized abstract\, anti-mundane conversation—focusing on the Zhuangzi and I-Ching. \nThere is an account of two practitioners of Pure Conversation that I was reminded of by Iron Grinder leaving at the end of this koan. According to the story\, a practitioner of Pure Conversation walks some distance to another town where another practitioner of Pure Conversation lived. Upon arriving at the door of the other practitioner’s house\, without knocking on the door\, he turned and went home. I was told this is an example of the purest of Pure Conversation. At some point Buddhists also got involved in these kinds of conversations and it’s hard not to wonder about the influence of Pure Conversation on koan practice. \nSee you on Tuesday for some not so pure conversation. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for April 18th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Qinglin’s Snake
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nA student asked Qinglin\, “When a student goes along the path\, what about that?”\nQinglin said\, “There’s a poisonous snake on the path. I advise the student not to run into it.”\n“What about when the student runs into it?”\n“She must mourn her life.”\n“What about when she doesn’t run into it?”\n“But there is no way to avoid it.”\n“Then how about at that moment?”\n“It completely disappeared.”\n“I wonder where it went.”\n“The grass is so deep that we can’t find it anywhere.”\n“You too should protect yourself against it.”\nQinglin rubbed his palms together and said\, “Both you and I are poisonous snakes.”  \n—Book of Equanimity\, Case 59 \nI have been enjoying the various ways this koan has been translated regarding the snake. There are two characters in question. One means “dead” or “death” and the other means “snake.” In a number of places\, it is translated as “Dead Snake.” In a number of other places\, it is translated as “Snake of Death” or “Death Snake.” The word “poisonous” does not appear\, it is an interpretation of the translator. \nI imagine the thinking was something along the lines of\, “If it is a snake of death\, then it must be poisonous.” I find it hard to understand how I lose my life to a dead snake. I suppose I might lose my life by suddenly realizing that I too will die someday in a more deeply intimate way than I had before that. So\, it is said that if you pick up the dead snake it will come alive\, if you really engage it. \nBut sometimes it’s like being bitten by a snake that I didn’t even know was there. Suddenly all of my ideas and concepts fall away and I’m not who I was anymore. \nHave you ever been bitten by this snake? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: The Diamond Sutra and Being Despised
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nIf you are despised by others because of evil karma from your previous lives\, about to drop into hell\, then because you are despised by others\, the evil karma of your previous life will be extinguished.  \nThe Diamond Sutra is the oldest known dated\, printed book in the world. It is dated May 11\, 868 A.D. and is a 16 foot long scroll of wood block printing. It was commissioned by a man named Wang Jie on behalf of his parents for free distribution. Buddhism fell out of favor with Emperor Wuzong\, who preferred Daoism and a Buddhist persecution occurred between 842 and 846 ending with the death of the Emperor. During that time\, it is estimated that 4\,600 monasteries and 40\,000 hermitages were destroyed and 260\,000 monks and nuns were forced to defrock. It is easy to imagine that twenty years after the persecution\, Buddhism was still looked at with suspicion\, mistrust and disapproval by many. \nThe koan is taken from the beginning of chapter 16 of the Diamond Sutra\, but leaves out the very beginning\, which goes like this: \n“If a good man or good woman who accepts\, upholds\, reads or recites this Sutra is disdained or slandered\, if they are despised or insulted…” \nPeople who resumed publicly practicing Buddhism after the persecution would have been the object of criticism and disdain by the supporters of Daoism and other indigenous Chinese spiritual traditions. The original Sanskrit version of the Diamond Sutra was written around the second century A.D. It is again easy to imagine that practitioners of the older Hindu tradition\, out of which Buddhism evolved\, felt suspicion\, mistrust and disapproval of this new upstart tradition of Buddhism. \nYou don’t have to be the subject of religious persecution to feel that people despise you. Perhaps “despise” is a strong term for it. How about feeling like people are not pleased with you\, ever feel like that? Have you noticed that the person who is least pleased with you is you? If I weren’t displeased with myself\, others’ displeasure wouldn’t stick to me. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for April 4th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/saturday-zen-for-pzi-members-conversations-with-david-weinstein-39/
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CATEGORIES:Saturday Conversations
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Yanyang’s One Thing
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nYanyang asked Zhaozhou\, “When not a single thing is brought\, then what?”\nZhaozhou said\, “Put it down.”\nYanyang said\, “If I don’t bring a single thing\, what should I put down?”\nZhaozhou said\, “Then carry it.” \n—Book of Equanimity\, Case 57 \nThis koan is a great example of Zhaozhou’s teaching style of reflecting back to the student where they are. It reminds me of another exchange with Zhaozhou: \nA student asked Zhaozhou\,\n“For a long time I’ve heard about the stone bridge of Zhaozhou.\nBut now that I’ve come\, I see only a log across the river.”\nZhaozhou said\, “You just see the log bridge\, you don’t see the stone bridge.” \nNo yelling\, no hitting\, no questions that don’t make any sense. His teaching is short\, pithy\, down-to-earth\, and rooted in everyday life. Like a koan\, he reflects what is in front of him. \nAnother thing that comes to mind with this koan about Yanyang’s one thing is the First Truth of Buddhism\, the Truth of Suffering. If we don’t know we’re suffering\, we can’t stop suffering. Yanyang wasn’t aware of the way he was suffering by being stuck in the place of not one thing. Zhaozhou wasn’t dismissing him when he said\, “Then carry it.” He was giving the best advice he could\, though\, not thinking about giving advice\, not thinking about anything at all\, just responding. \nThen another conversation with Zhaozhou came to mind: \nA student asked\, “How should we meet difficulties when they arise?”\nZhaozhou said\, “Welcome.” \nIn telling Yanyang\, “Carry it\,” he is inviting him to welcome it\, let it in\, meet it\, turn toward it\, get to know and be intimate with it. \nWe’re told that Yanyang had an awakening at the end of his conversation with Zhaozhou. He accepted Zhaozhou’s invitation and let in the cost of clinging to that one thing of not having one thing. That’s all it takes. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Uncle Mi’s White Rabbit
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nWhen Uncle Mi went walking with Dongshan a white rabbit dashed by in front of them.\nUncle exclaimed\, “How quick!”\nDongshan asked\, “How is that?”\n“Just as if a commoner were appointed prime minister\,” said Uncle Mi.\n“Though you are old and great\, you still say things like that!” replied Dongshan.\n“What would you say?” asked Uncle Mi.\n“Generations of nobility\, temporarily fallen into poverty\,” said Dongshan \nThis koan reminded me of another koan involving Uncle Mi and Dongshan which goes like this: \nUncle Mi was mending clothes when Dongshan asked\, “What are you doing?”\n“Mending\,” said Uncle Mi.\n“How is it going?” asked Dongshan.\n“One stitch follows another\,” said Uncle Mi.\n“We’ve been traveling together for twenty years and that’s all you have to say?” said Dongshan. “How can you be so clueless?”\n“How do you mend\, then?” asked Uncle Mi.\n“With each stitch the whole earth is spewing flames\,” said Dongshan. \nAnd then another koan involving Uncle Mi and Dongshan came along: \nWhen Dongshan was crossing a river with Uncle Mi\, he asked\, “How does one cross a river?”\n“Don’t get your feet wet\,’ said Uncle Mi.\nAt your venerable age\, how can you say such a thing!” said Dongshan.\n“How do you cross a river?” asked Uncle Mi.\n“Feet don’t get wet\,” replied Dongshan. \nCan you feel how these koans are the same? Can you feel how they are different? Can you find this in your life? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for March 21st here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
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CATEGORIES:Saturday Conversations
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Longtan\, Renowned Far and Wide – Gateless Barrier 28
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nDeshan visited Longtan and questioned him sincerely far into the night.\nIt grew late and Longtan said\, “Why don’t you retire?”\nDeshan made his bows and lifted the blinds to withdraw but was met by darkness.\nTurning back he said\, “It is dark outside.” \nLongtan lit a paper candle and handed it to Deshan.\nDeshan was about to take it when Longtan blew it out.\nAt this\, Deshan had a sudden realization and made bows.\nLongtan said\, “What truth did you discern?”\nDeshan said\, “From now on I will not doubt the words of an old priest who is renowned everywhere under the sun.” \nThe next day Longtan took the high seat before his assembly and said\, “I see a brave fellow among you monks. His fangs are like a sword-tree. His mouth is like a blood-bowl. Give him a blow and he won’t turn his head. Someday he will climb the highest peak and establish our Way there.” \nDeshan brought his notes on the Diamond Sutra before the Dharma Hall and held up a torch\, saying\, “Even though you have exhausted the abstruse doctrines\, it is like placing a hair in vast space. Even though you have learned all the secrets of the world\, it is like letting a single drop of water fall into an enormous valley.” And he burned up all his notes. Then\, making his bows\, he took leave of his teacher. \nWumen’s comment on this case feels like it should be part of the case. It goes like This: \nBefore Deshan crossed the barrier from his native province\, his mind burned and his mouth sputtered. Full of arrogance\, he went south to exterminate the doctrine of a special transmission outside the sutras. When he reached the road to Li-chou\, he sought to buy refreshments from an old woman. \nThe old woman said\, “Your Reverence\, what sort of literature do you have there in your cart?”\nDeshan said\, “Notes and commentaries on the Diamond Sutra.”\nThe old woman said\, “I hear the Diamond Sutra says\, ‘Past mind cannot be grasped\, present mind cannot be grasped\, future mind cannot be grasped.’ Which mind does Your Reverence intend to refresh?”\n\nDeshan was dumbfounded and unable to answer.\nHe did not expire completely under her words\, however\, but asked\, “Is there a teacher of Zen Buddhism in this neighborhood?”\nThe old woman said\,“The priest Longtan is about half a mile from here.” \nArriving at Longtan’s place\, Deshan was utterly defeated. His earlier words certainly did not match his later ones. Longtan disgraced himself in his compassion for his son. Finding a bit of a live coal in the other\, he took up muddy water and drenched him\, destroying everything at once. \nViewing the matter dispassionately\, you can see it was all a farce. \nLast week we spent time with the eighty-year-old Deshan. This week we’re looking back at the younger Deshan\, perhaps about forty years old. At that time\, he very much thought he knew the last word of Zen and was on a campaign to teach others what it was and what it wasn’t. It’s nice to have an opportunity to appreciate how the practice keeps on going and how different the older\, more mature Deshan was than his younger self. \nBut what does Wumen mean when he says\, “Longtan disgraced himself in his compassion for his son.”? What was the muddy water that he drenched Deshan with? How is it a farce? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Deshan Carries His Bowls
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nOne day\, Deshan descended to the dining hall\, bowls in hand. Xuefeng asked him\, “Where are you going with your bowls in hand\, Old Teacher? The bell has not rung\, and the drum has not sounded.” Deshan turned and went back to his room. \nXuefeng brought up this matter with Yantou. Yantou said\, “Deshan\, great as he is\, does not yet know the last word.” \nHearing about this\, Deshan sent for Yantou and asked\, “Don’t you approve of this old monk?”\nYantou whispered his meaning. Deshan said nothing further. \nNext day\, when Deshan took the high seat before his gathering\, his presentation was very different from usual. Yantou came to the front of the hall\, rubbing his hands and laughing loudly\, saying\, “How delightful! Our Old Boss has got hold of the last word. From now on\, no one under heaven can outdo him!” \nThis koan also appears in the Gateless Barrier as case thirteen. It’s interesting when the same koan appears in two different collections. The koans in the Book of Equanimity were originally collected by Hongzhi one hundred years before Wumen used it in the Gateless Barrier collection. These collections are like playlists\, the favorite “tunes” of the person who was making the collection. This “tune” would seem to have been popular for over 100 years. It makes you wonder what it was that made it so popular. \nOne of the points that stands out for me is that it is one of the few examples of a teacher learning something. I am assuming that Deshan’s talk the next day was different in a good way because he had learned something. Teaching is learning\, it is a practice. In one version of this koan\, when Deshan called Yantou in\, he asks Yantou\, “Do you have a problem with this old student.” I like that. Someone once said that the only difference between a student and a teacher is that a teacher knows there is no difference. \nDo you think there’s a difference? \nThe story involves a cook\, his best friend and their meditation teacher. The cook’s name was Xuefeng. He’d been practicing meditation for a long time; now with his third teacher\, whose name was Deshan. Xuefeng had problems with his previous two teachers. At the place he was practicing before Deshan’s place\, the teacher there suggested he leave and go to Deshan’s place\, after Xuefeng had dumped all of the rice for the meal for all of the people onto the ground in response to the teacher’s question about whether he separated the rice from the dirt or the dirt from the rice. \nXuefeng’s best friend at Deshan’s place was named Yantou and though younger than Xuefeng he had a deeper understanding of Zen\, which is to say\, a deeper understanding of meditation. That’s what the word “Zen” literally means\, “meditation.” Working again as a cook\, as he had with his two previous teachers\, felt good to him. He liked cooking\, it gave him something to hold onto and focus on; gathering vegetables\, boiling water\, cutting carrots. He had somewhat of a rigid character structure and feeling the need to have something to hold onto was part of that for him. \nOne day as Xuefeng was preparing the meal\, very busy and absorbed in what he was doing\, he noticed that his teacher\, Deshan\, was coming down from his room carrying his eating bowls\, as if he expected to have a meal. But the meal was not ready. Xuefeng had not rung the bell that signaled the meal being ready\, what was his teacher doing coming down now? \nBeing of a rigid character structure\, Xuefeng responded to his teacher in a rigid way and called out somewhat disrespectfully\, “Where are you going? I haven’t rung the bell to signal that the meal is ready!” Deshan stopped walking\, turned around\, and returned to his room without saying a word. Shortly after that Yantou came into the cooking area to check on his friend and see how things were going. Xuefeng told him\, with some relish\, about what had just happened with Deshan. Yantou shook his head and replied\, “As good as he is as a Zen teacher\, Deshan doesn’t yet know the last word of Zen.” \nOf the 10 basic precepts of Buddhism\, gossiping is said to incur the most negative consequences\, the most negative karma. That is surprising\, especially given what the other precepts are: killing\, stealing\, lying\, etc. The explanation is that though each instance of gossiping incurs only a slight negative consequence\, we do it so much that the negative consequence from gossiping adds up to the point that it outweighs the negative consequences of all the other precepts combined. \nThat said\, what Yantou said to Xuefeng about Deshan not knowing the last word of Zen got around the place pretty quickly and before the day was out Deshan had summoned Yantou to his quarters. When Yantou arrived Deshan asked him if he had a problem with the way he was teaching. Yantou responded by whispering something into Deshan’s ear and Deshan nodded his head and dismissed Yantou. We might wonder what it was he whispered to have brought about such a result. \nLater that night\, after Deshan had finished with his regular evening talk\, which we are told was very different from his usual talk\, Yantou jumped up and yelled\, “Wonderful! Wonderful! Deshan has finally gotten the last word of Zen!” And that is the end of the story/dream. Your dream. What do you make of it? Which character calls out to you the most? What is it that puzzles you the most? What is it that reminds you of you the most? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for March 7th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Yunyan's Great Compassion
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nYunyan asked Daowu\, “How does the Bodhisattva Guanyin use all those hands and eyes?\nDaowu answered\, “It is like someone in the middle of the night reaching behind their head for the pillow.”\nYunyan said\, “I understand.”\n“How do you understand it?” asked Daowu\n“All over the body are hands and eyes.” said Yunyan\nDaowu said “That is very well-expressed\, but it is only eight-tenths of the answer.”\nYunyan asked “How would you say it\, Elder Brother?”\nDaowu said “All throughout the body are hands and eyes.” \nThis koan appears in both the Blue Cliff Record and the Book of Equanimity. In the Blue Cliff Record it is entitled\, “Yunyan’s Hands and Eyes.” In the Book of Equanimity it is called\, “Yunyan’s Great Compassion.” \nIt’s interesting that Yunyan gets top billing over Daowu as it would seem that Daowu got the upper hand on Yunyan in appreciating the difference between all over the body and all throughout the body. Isn’t one deeper than the other? All over the body is on the surface\, not on the inside. You might think that the koan should be called “Daowu’s Great Compassion” or “Daowu’s Hands and Eyes.” After all\, Daowu is Yunyan’s elder brother so…doesn’t that mean he knows more? \nJust to make things a bit more interesting\, the story also appears in the Record of Yunyan. Though there is no title\, it is interesting to notice that the positions are  reversed and that it is Daowu who asks Yunyan the first question about hands and eyes. \nDaowu asked\, “‘The Bodhisattva of Compassion has thousands of eyes—which is the most important one?” Yunyan said\, “It’s like when a person reaches out for their pillow in the middle of the night.”                            Daowu said\, “I understand.”                                                                                    \nYunyan asked\, “What do you understand?”                                                               \nDaowu said\, “There are eyes all over one’s body.”                                                    \nYunyan replied\, “You said that so directly\, but you are only 80% correct.”              \nDaowu asked\, “How do you understand this?”                                                          \nYunyan said\, “There are eyes all over one’s body.” \nYamada’s translation in both the Blue Cliff Record and the Book of Equanimity has Yunyan saying\, “The whole body is hands and eyes.” Then Daowu saying\, “All throughout the body are hands and eyes.” Aren’t they saying the same thing as in the version of the Record of Yunyan? \nThen the donkey and the well came along and asked\, “Isn’t the difference between eyes all over the body and eyes all through the body the same as the donkey sees the well and the well sees the donkey?” \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Huangbo’s Brewers Dregs
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nHuangbo said\, “You’re all gobblers of brewers dregs. \nIf you run around like this\, where will you meet today? \nHaven’t you figured out that in the whole country there is not a single Chan teacher?”\nSomeone stepped forward and asked\, “But what about all those places where people are guiding students and leading gatherings?”\nHuangbo said\, “I didn’t say no Chan\, only no Chan teachers.”  \nHuangbo originated this expression\, “Gobblers of brewer’s dregs” which became a popular saying used to refer to people whose meditation practice involved imitating what they read in texts and what they heard from teachers\, but never making it their own\, never integrating it into their lives. The literal meaning is that you eat leftovers from making rice wine and then think that you have had a taste of the real thing. \nHuangbo’s warning about running around like this\, going on pilgrimage\, seeking wisdom\, was something that he had learned from his own experience. Like most young monks\, following his ordination Huangbo went looking for a teacher. Finding the right teacher didn’t come easy\, but he learned as he went. Eventually he met a laywoman who suggested the person he was looking for was Mazu. Mazu was living a thousand kilometers to the southeast. By the time Huangbo got there\, Mazu had died. Although Mazu was gone\, his dharma heir Baizhang was a mere two days’ walk away. In their first meeting: \nBaizhang said to Huangbo\, “Magnificent\, imposing\, where have you come from?”\nHuangbo replied\, “Magnificent\, imposing\, from the mountains.”\nBaizhang asked\, “Magnificent\, imposing\, why have you come?”\nHuangbo replied\, “Magnificent\, imposing\, not for anything else.” \nIt is said that Huangbo was 7 feet tall\, but I don’t think that’s what Baizhang was referring to when he said\, “Magnificent\, imposing.” When Huangbo replied\, “Magnificent\, imposing” I think he was talking about everything. Everything is magnificent and imposing if we get out of the way of our thinking. Especially the thinking that says that we lack something and we need to get it from someplace outside of ourselves. Huangbo wasn’t looking for anything at that moment\, not wisdom\, not a teacher\, “not for anything else” other than that moment. \nDeshan was an expert on texts\, which he pulled behind him in a cart. Upon his realization he said it wasn’t about texts\, “I will never doubt any more what the old master has said to me.” He was not talking about Lungtan\, the old teacher who blew out his candle\, allowing him to see the light in the dark. He was talking about the “old master” who is reading these words right now. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for February 21st here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Caoshan’s Well Sees a Donkey
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nCaoshan asked a student\, “Awakening is like the empty sky.\nIt responds to things the way the moon appears in water.\nHow do you explain this responsiveness?”\nThe student said\, “It’s like a donkey seeing a well.”\nCaoshan said\, “That’s most of it\, but not the whole thing.”                                                   \n“What’s it like for you?” asked the student\,                                                                          \n“It’s like a well seeing a donkey.” said Caoshan. \nThis koan about a donkey and a well brought the peach blossom koan to mind in which reality is met just as it is without any overlay in the experience of seeing peach blossoms. Nothing but peach blossoms. That sounds like a donkey seeing a well. There’s a me seeing the well\, but without overlay\, the way the empty sky receives whatever passes through it. The student’s response is good\, as far as it goes. \nBut the student’s response leaves out the other side of the coin. To say awakening is like a donkey seeing a well speaks to the way something is still being held onto… the donkey. Caoshan’s response of “A well sees a donkey” takes away what’s being held onto. When you experience\, “a donkey sees a well” there is nothing to know. When you experience\, “a well sees a donkey” there is no one who knows. No subject\, no object\, your body and mind are “like the vast sky”. The donkey is the donkey and the well is the well and simultaneously the donkey is the well and the well is the donkey and all the barriers come down. It reminds me of the seamlessness that we talked about in the last retreat. Life is not something to be observed from a corner. To be fully alive is to see by being seen and to be seen by seeing. \nThe fact is that even adding Caoshan’s other side of the coin ‘is not the whole thing’. We can never explain it\, like the taste of tea\, it is something we must experience for ourselves. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Fayan’s Boat or Land
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nFayan asked the senior student Jiao\, “Did you come by boat or land?”\nJiao said\, “I came by boat.”\n“Where is the boat?”\n“It’s on the river.”\nAfter Jiao had left\, Fayan asked a student who was standing nearby\,\n“Tell me\, that student who was just here\, could he see into reality or not?” \n—Book of Serenity Case 51 \nThere are many cases in which teachers ask\, “Where have you come from?” Fayan’s question in this koan feels like that. Confronted with a question like that\, another question comes to mind\, “Is this a regular question or a Zen question?” Either way\, knowing the difference or not knowing the difference\, tells the teacher something. \nDongshan did not know the difference when he encountered Yunmen: \nYunmen asked him\, “Where were you most recently?”\nDongshan said\, “At Chadu.”\nYunmen said\, “Where were you during the summer?”\nDongshan said\, “At Baozi Monastery in Hunan.”\nYunmen said\, “When did you leave there?”\nDongshan said\, “August 25th.”\nYunmen said\, “I spare you sixty blows.” \nIn our koan we and the student are asked by Fayan whether we think Jiao knows the difference or not. In Hongzhi’s verse on the koan the first two lines are\, \nWater cannot wash water\, gold cannot be turned into gold. \nDid Hongzhi think Jiao knew the difference? \nDo you? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for February 7th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Xuefeng’s What Is This? —Equanimity 50
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nWhen Xuefeng was living in a hermitage\, two monks came to pay their respects. When he saw them coming\, Xuefeng thrust open the gate of his hermitage and jumped out\, saying\, “What is this?”\nOne of the monks also said\, “What is this?”\nXuefeng hung his head and went back inside.  \nThe monks went on to Yantou. Yantou asked\, “Where have you come from?”\n“From Lingnan\,” one monk replied.\n“Did you visit Xuefeng?” Yantou asked.\n“Yes\, we went there.” \n“What did he tell you?”\nThe monk related what happened. Yantou asked\, “What did he say after ‘What is this’?”\n“He hung his head without a word and went back inside.”\nYantou said\, “What a pity!  In those days I did not tell him the last words. If I had told him\, nobody in the world could deal with him.” \nThis monk spent the summer season with Yantou\, and at the end\, he asked what Yantou meant by his observation about Xuefeng.\nYantou asked\, “Why didn’t you ask me sooner?”\n“It is not so easy to ask you about this.”\n“Xuefeng and I were born on the same branch\, but we do not die on it.\nIf you want to know the last words\, it is ‘only just this’.” \nThis feels like a continuation of the previous koan about Dongshan and the teaching he received from his teacher Yunyan\, “Just this\, this.” Xuefeng was born twenty years after Dongshan and forty years after Yunyan\, so it’s easy to assume that the teaching of ‘just this\, this’ was circulating around in the Chan world of the time. To experience ‘just this\, this’\, you must know what ’this’ is. Xuefeng is encouraging the monks\, himself and you and I to carry the inquiry further into ‘just this\, this’ by engaging the question ‘What is this?’ \nAt the end of Yunmen’s koan about sickness and medicine he asks the question\, “What are you?” It’s jarring to think of myself as a ‘what’\, somehow more so than asking ‘Who am I’. In a similar way\, asking “What is this?” feels like it is asking more of me than “Just this\, this” \n“What is this?” reading these words. Why is it so hard to ask? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Dongshan Holds a Memorial Service
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nDongshan held a memorial service in front of Yunyan’s portrait and told the portrait story again.                                                                                                \nA student asked Dongshan\, “What did Yunnan mean by\, ‘Just this\, this!’?”\nDongshan said\, “At the time\, I almost misunderstood what my teacher really meant.”                                            The student said\, “I wonder whether Yunyan really knew what he was talking about.”\nDongshan said\, “If he didn’t know\, why would he have bothered to say anything? If he did know\, why was he willing to say it like that?” \n—Book of Serenity Case 49 \nI think it would be helpful to know what the “portrait story” is: \nDongshan had been studying with Yunyan for a while and was thinking about leaving.\nYunyan said\, “If you leave\, it will be difficult to see each other again.”\nDongshan said\, “It will be difficult not to see each other.”\nAs Dongshan was about to go\, he asked\, “After your death\, if people ask whether I have your portrait\, how should I respond?”\nAfter a long pause\, Yunyan answered\, “Just this\, this!”\nDongshan sighed.\nThen Yunyan said\, “Reverend Liang\, now that you have taken on this great matter\, you must consider it carefully.”\nBut Dongshan continued to have doubts. Later as he crossed a stream he saw his reflection in the water and awakened to Yunyan’s meaning. Then he wrote this verse: \nDon’t look elsewhere\, far from yourself\,\nNow I’m walking alone\, but I meet him everywhere\,\nNow he’s exactly me\, now I’m not him\,\nYou have to understand this way to join with what is. \nThe first koan in the Book of Equanimity came to join in the conversation with the portrait koan. That first koan goes like this: \nOne day\, the World-Honored One ascended to the rostrum. Manjusri struck the white gavel and said\, “Contemplate clearly the Dharma of the King of the Dharma. The Dharma of the King of the Dharma is just this!” The Buddha then stepped down from the rostrum. \nThis koan with Dongshan and Yunyan is an example of an 8th century Chan teacher echoing the teaching of the Buddha\, some thirteen centuries earlier. While I was at the Koko An Zendo in Honolulu\, Aitken Roshi sometimes invited a professor from the University of Hawaii philosophy department to come and talk. His name was David Kalapuhana\, and his field of interest was what he called “Original Buddhism\,” what others call Theravada. \nWhat interested Aitken Roshi was Kalapuhana’s feeling that Chan\, and later Zen\, were movements back towards the original teachings of the Buddha. A lot happened to Buddhism in those thirteen centuries between Shakyamuni and Dongshan and Yunyan\, yet Yunyan went back to the beginning to summarize his teachings for Dongshan. \nFeels to me like our way of practicing goes back beyond the Buddha into the time before Daoism or Confucianism or the pyramids in Egypt and South America. It’s as old as human consciousness\, a way of working with that burden and blessing. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-71/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for January 24th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/saturday-zen-for-pzi-members-conversations-with-david-weinstein-34/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:Saturday Conversations
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Vimalakirti's Silence
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nWhen I write about the weekly koan\, first I look for an image. \nThis week as I searched for “images of silence\,” I couldn’t find one that quite hit the spot. Then I recalled my recent three weeks in Japan\, spent on the coast sixty miles southwest of Tokyo\, where from the veranda at our place it’s possible to look straight down and see waves crashing against the rocky coast. The sound of waves is a constant backdrop. \nThat constant presence can lead them to being silent\, a blank paper waiting for the brush and ink of whatever other sounds are present. Late at night\, in the dark\, listening to the regular rhythm of the waves\, like the breathing of the ocean\, the breathing of the earth\, the sound of the waves can become the only sound\, the only thing at all\, and there is also the silence. \nI think Vimalakirti’s silence was like that. The only thing there was at all. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Mount Fuji Obscured by Clouds
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nMount Fuji\,\nobscured by clouds\,\nthat’s interesting \n—Basho \nI took a photo of Mount Fuji and clouds during my most recent trip to Japan. My wife and I had gone to the Jukkoku Togei\, a 3000-foot mountain pass near the town of Atami\, in hopes of catching a view of that famous peak. When we arrived and saw a bunch of clouds between us and the mountain\, the poem by Basho came to mind. \nWhat could be interesting about making the effort to see Mount Fuji yet not seeing Mount Fuji because it’s obscured by clouds? \nIt is the same thing that’s interesting about making the effort to see ourselves clearly and finding ourselves obscured by the clouds of delusion. \nIn Japan\, seeing the New Year’s Day sunrise is considered to bring good luck in the new year. This is what it looked like this year: \n \nIt’s a much more interesting image because of the presence of clouds! Sitting in zazen\, obscured by the clouds of my delusions—that’s interesting. \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-69/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks\, schedule permitting \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for January 10th here.  \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/saturday-zen-for-pzi-members-conversations-with-david-weinstein-33/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:Saturday Conversations
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: ON BREAK
DESCRIPTION:David Weinstein is not teaching today\, but will return on January 13th. We hope you join us then!\n\nEveryone is welcome here no matter how you are feeling\, where you come from\, what you believe.  \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-on-break-5/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: ON BREAK
DESCRIPTION:David Weinstein is not teaching today\, but will return on January 6th. We hope you join us then!\n\nEveryone is welcome here no matter how you are feeling\, where you come from\, what you believe.  \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-on-break-2/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: ON BREAK
DESCRIPTION:David Weinstein is not teaching today\, but will return on January 6th. We hope you join us then!\n\nEveryone is welcome here no matter how you are feeling\, where you come from\, what you believe.  \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-on-break-3/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: ON BREAK
DESCRIPTION:David Weinstein is not teaching today\, but will return on January 6th. We hope you join us then!\n\nEveryone is welcome here no matter how you are feeling\, where you come from\, what you believe.  \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-on-break-4/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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DTEND;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20251213T100000
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SUMMARY:SATURDAY ZEN: For PZI Members – Conversations with David Weinstein
DESCRIPTION:About Saturday Conversations \nDokusan is the Japanese word for these conversations about meditation practice. It means “to go alone” or “to practice alone.” It is to have a conversation so intimate\, that for both participants it is as if you were talking with and listening to yourself. \nThe word “conversation” (in place of the Japanese word dokusan) has its own way of speaking to the experience. \nEtymologically\, it means “to turn around together.” Meditation is often referred to as a turning around of our attention towards the inside. These conversations about meditation practice are an opportunity for a mutual turning the light around and exploring what’s there. \n—David Weinstein \n\nSaturday Conversations with David Weinstein Roshi\nOnline on Zoom from 8–10:00 am Pacific Time\nEvery two weeks \nIf you are a PZI Member and would like to have a conversation with David\,\nbook your 15-minute online meeting for December 13th here. \nDana gratefully accepted \nQuestions? Contact David
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/saturday-zen-with-david-weinstein/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:Saturday Conversations
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ORGANIZER;CN="David Weinstein Roshi":MAILTO:dweinstein@pacificzen.org
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DTEND;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20251209T193000
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Yantou’s Arising and Disappearing
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nLuoshan asked Yantou\, “What about when arising and disappearing don’t stop?”\nYantou yelled\, “Who arises and disappears?” \n—Book of Serenity Case 43 \nWhen Yantou and Xuefeng were snowbound in a cabin on Turtle Mountain\, Xuefeng spent every waking moment meditating while Yantou dozed. Xuefeng became upset with Yantou because he wasn’t meditating\, which led to a conversation about Xuefeng’s practice. In the end Yantou shouted at Xuefeng\, “Don’t you know that the family treasure does not come in through the front gate?” This was the spark that set off Yantou’s awakening. \nThat story paid a visit as I spent time with Yantou’s koan about arising and disappearing. I could feel a resonance between the two. It would be easy to answer Yantou’s question about who arises and disappears by saying\, “Me.” That would be the answer coming in through the front gate. Just as Xuefeng’s assumption that meditating every moment he was awake was the answer to awakening. \nThen another koan came along: “Who is hearing?” \nOn the first night of Fall Sesshin at Mount Madonna sat with that koan as the rain came thundering down. Though the roof did not leak many people were drenched. Again\, I can feel the resonance with Yantou’s question. It’s the same “who.” \nThen there was the question about when arising and disappearing don’t stop. Which brings up the question of when arising and disappearing do stop. What’s that like? Who experiences that? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-63/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
CATEGORIES:PZI Zen Online
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SUMMARY:TUESDAY ZEN with David Weinstein: Nanyang's Water Jug
DESCRIPTION:REGISTER\n\nA student asked National Teacher Zhong of Nanyang\,\n“What is the original body of Vairochana Buddha like?”\nThe National Teacher said\, “Pass me that water jug.”\nThe student picked up the water jug and brought it to him.\nThe National Teacher said\, “Put it back where it was.”\nThe student asked again\, “But what is the original body of Vairochana Buddha like?”\n“That old Buddha is long gone\,” said the National teacher. \nAnother koan involving a water jug comes to mind. Case forty of the Gateless Barrier involves Baizhang\, who set up a test to see who the abbot of a new temple would be. Guishan and the Head Monk were the finalists. Baizhang placed a water jug on the ground and asked each of them to say what it was without calling it a water jug. The Head Monk said\, “You cannot call it a wooden shoe.” Guishan kickedthe jug over and left and he was given the abbotship. \nHere the National Teacher is like Guishan\, he demonstrates what the original body of Vairochana is like the way Guishan demonstrated what a water jug is. In a way that has nothing to do with the water jug\, the National Teacher could have asked the student to pass him a book\, as Yamada Roshi asked me. Gormlessly\, I turned towards the bookshelf behind me and reached for the book he asked for. Before my hand reached the book\, I bumped into Vairochana Buddha and broke out laughing\, as did Yamada. \nBumped into Vairochana lately? \n—David Weinstein \n\nDavid Weinstein Roshi\n  \nCOME JOIN US on Tuesdays for koan meditation\, dharma talk and conversation.\nRegister to participate. All are welcome. \nDavid Weinstein Roshi\, Director of Rockridge Meditation Community \n 
URL:https://www.pacificzen.org/event/tuesday-zen-with-david-weinstein-64/
LOCATION:PZI Online Temple
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