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…of unfortunate circumstances, fierce winds blew the ship off course and set it drifting toward the land of the flesh-eating demons?’” Rakshasas, they call them. They are demons whose existence…

…particularly late on the second day of retreat—which is where we are—that the demons arise. [laughter] Everyone: Noooooo… One of the great Japanese koan masters, used to know—he has that…

…know where they come from. And even your demons are involuntary. But whether you feed them or not, is voluntary. If you think of, you’re meditating along, or you’re just…

…to the nature. Buddhas are delusive demons and delusive demons are Buddhas. The one pure quality where any opposition of equal and not equal, all this is the constant endowment…

…cuts it off. You know, people are doing Aikido swordwork or something with their demons. And I don’t know, I think that just keep the demons alive, myself. So, I…

John: So I’ll take any comments or questions. So how’s it going? How are your demons doing? How are your elephants? What are you noticing in your meditation? S: I’m…

…notice something other than the demons. I guess I’m just describing what you just described. Stuff starts to rise up, which is such a great gift that I’m not responsible…

…I’ll say later, but there’s something practical about that, because you notice when you’re drifting to the land of the demons. You notice that – I’m starting to suffer because…

…kind of thing continued all summer long, and this is the point in your meditation where the demons are there. The demons are there. You don’t have any access to…

…doesn’t matter. Either way—it’s as if we’re walking along in a forest path, and creatures rustle and things jump out. Demons come and say, “Boo!” But that’s alright. Demons are…

…That transforms us—it pulverizes us and brings us back to life. It melts us and reconstitutes us. We get attacked by demons and realize they were our friends. So we’re…

…you’ll find that you’re always here; it’s always here. And then even when your demons arise, it’s kind of interesting. The demon’s just something you’ve called a demon; it’s some…

…there. How are you doing? How’s the progress towards enlightenment going? [laughter] What to say? Interesting beings? Demons are good. Demons can be enlightened—as everybody knows. The obstacle is the…

…end of my talk. Amaryllis: [sings] Peacefully, humbly, the ship’s stars travel. The grass hunches down to earth. The demons take their rest, and we ask the protectors to smile…

…demons take their rest, and we call the protectors to smile over us, as the work in darkness goes on until dawn. Amaryllis: [plays violin intro to the Four Vows]…

…you know. Amaryllis: [sings] Peacefully, humbly, the ship stars travel, the grass hunches down to earth, the demons take their rest. And we ask the protectors to smile over us…

…an early teenager at the time was in battle with one of the demons who beset her world. One afternoon she came running into the kitchen and flung herself down…

…hunches down, the demons take their rest. And we ask the protectors to smile over us, as the work in darkness goes on until dawn. Sarah Bender Roshi: [closing words…